Accepting yourself vs Change...

topic posted Wed, April 25, 2007 - 8:33 PM by  Parvati
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Ok guys,

Here's one I've been grappling with. How can one want to change/progess/improve or evolve whilst Totally Accepting oneself as they are???
Have I stumbled upon another cosmic paradox here???
I am wanting to change - but by wanting to change am I not accepting myself as I am NOW?
I am wanting to fully accept myself as I am now - but then there is no impetus for growth...
How can one grow and evolve in a positive way while accepting themselves as they ARE???

Maybe once you truly accept yourself then the changes don't seem like changes & growth occurs naturally?
Personally - I am really working on making positive changes in my life, but it's being resisted inside & feels really hard...

thoughts anyone???
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Parvati
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  • Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

    Wed, April 25, 2007 - 8:51 PM
    I think by accpepting you as you are right now..while way down deep knowing that you need to make changes in your life to become a better you is not authentic..I call that floating up the river of Da Nile ;-)

    I think by being honest and knowing that you are always doing the best you can..and allowing for that best to evolve and grow into new and better you's while acceptaing yourself while you go through these changes and nourishing yourself holistically as you grow is a much better grasp of self acceptance.

    Blessed Be
    Leisa
    • Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

      Wed, April 25, 2007 - 9:12 PM
      But what if you're not always doing your best and keep falling back into old patterns - then thinking, "ok - this is where I AM and I accept myself for being here"... and then nothing changes...
      Also - I know I need to change, but then it feels like deep down inside I'm not really accepting myself...
      How can you be ok with yourself and still want to grow...???
      I can see how that's not being authentic... but my best is honestly not revealing itself because the old patterns are too strong...
      I feel caught in a catch 22...

      thanks for your insights!
    • Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

      Mon, June 18, 2007 - 9:38 AM
      Wed, April 25, 2007 - 8:51 PMRe: Accepting yourself vs Change...
      "I think by accpepting you as you are right now..while way down deep knowing that you need to make changes in your life to become a better you is not authentic..I call that floating up the river of Da Nile ;-)

      I think by being honest and knowing that you are always doing the best you can..and allowing for that best to evolve and grow into new and better you's while acceptaing yourself while you go through these changes and nourishing yourself holistically as you grow is a much better grasp of self acceptance.

      Blessed Be
      Leisa
      ♥"

      Ok Well I am still stuck with where to go adn hwoto grow.

      I am acceptign self . OK I am not nourishing myself as well I as I might.. this area is rampant with poor food adn very expensive organic food. Health clubs with gyms want one year contracts. I can be.. just sit here .. but I am stuck on how to fill days wnd what directions to turn for change. So far explorations in this locale have left me bereft adn I dotn knwo where to move to.

      So the change which I desire and need and seek I havent gotten a clue about.
  • Change happens...

    Wed, April 25, 2007 - 9:32 PM
    ....no matter what. Life is change, so it's not the fact that you don't accept yourself that causes you to change - the change would happen anyway.

    "Fixing" yourself is one kind of change, but it's not the only kind. When you're no longer trying to fix yourself, life continues on and suddenly it's a lot more interesting. Instead of bettering yourself out of judging yourself lacking in some way, you become curious about what life would be like if you made this change or that change. It becomes a process of exploration and discovery, instead of penance for not being perfect.

    Also, when you're not trying to figure things out, wisdom and understanding may come more naturally, usually when you're not even thinking about it.

    Most of all, when you're not trying to fix yourself, you're a lot happier and more at peace, which is exactly what changing yourself is supposed to do for you. So just cut out the "middle-man", relax, and enjoy!
  • Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

    Thu, April 26, 2007 - 4:28 AM
    The way I see it is accept yourself and then change. I am not sure what the specific situation is….however for me, accepting means taking full responsibility for my feelings. When it is owned then I can consciously release it and choose another way.
  • Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

    Thu, April 26, 2007 - 11:43 PM
    ooohhhhh!!! BRILLIANT! Ive been busting my ass on this one too! I looked on another tribe a few weeks ago and put this little pile o words together for myself, printed it out and taped it to my desk at work.... Bless Richard and all those beautiful souls who responded to his post... here are some peices of it, it helped me a great deal!

    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~


    my desire is genuine
    my commitment sincere
    i will endeavor
    even if to just quiet my mind
    and hear my heart

    perhaps i was looking
    for an emotional vibration
    loud enough
    to be heard over the cacophony in my head
    when the truth in my heart
    speaks more quietly

    perhaps in silence
    i can discover
    the love i seek
    is already there

    ~Richard
    (Tribes/Unconditional love)

    From the same post:

    "For me, self love is unconditionally accepting who I am at this very moment
    for who I am, not what I think or feel I should be."

    "When a non-loving feeling is experienced, there is usually some form of
    self judgment around it. If this is the case, then self-forgiveness works
    for me, because it releases judgment, and is followed by peace, gratitude
    and greater self love. Self-forgivingness is not forgiving something that is
    wrong; self-forgiveness is forgiving one’s self of one’s projections
    (judgments). I have learnt that it leads to self acceptance (nothing to
    forgive), which is self-love."

    "For me, it seems that unconditional love for your self is the starting
    point. If you can't truly love and accept yourself, how can you love others? Love
    for yourself begins when you accept all aspects of yourself you don't
    already accept - i.e. your shadow. Begin to process your shadow and it will
    come."


    ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

    now what do you think about them apples? For me I focus always on this thought; I always do the best I can with what skills/etc I have at the time.. and I am always evolving. Noticing this contrast will always serve me to see the ways that I have grown and outgrown old patterns that no longer serve me or my path.... "Noticing vs judging" it was the key for me that I was not quite seeing clearly when I started this little ponder.

    :o) Love and blessings

    Marlaena
    • Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

      Fri, April 27, 2007 - 12:06 AM
      I just had an afterthought after I sent this out.. perhaps it would be better to have permission before sharing other ppls words... not cool.... And now I realize that I cant delete it.

      Sorry!! Next time Ill think more!
      • Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

        Fri, April 27, 2007 - 12:20 AM
        I find that accepting and forgiving myself for all my behaviours is the pre-requisite to change naturally occurring...as something arises to flow acceptance to it with no judgement...often that is enough to allow it to move...in my past I have been trying so hard to change the things I didnt like...about myself and yet it was not something I could force and realised over time that only loving kindness brought me closer to where I really wanted to be and where I needed to be...
        There is a delicate balance of knowing what and where we want to be but also allowing and being patient and trusting in each moment being perfect as it is.... as we are....trust and more trust..and intent and more intent...and even more kindness...
  • Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

    Fri, April 27, 2007 - 9:58 AM
    It does seem like quite the paradox doesn't it? :) I think the key behind the loving yourself as you are is that for us to truly be able to grow we need to look inward, realize where it is we are at this moment. Accept that this is where we are, try not to judge ourselves harshly. Just go in, take note of things... see how our ego comes into play in our lives, see what patterns are driving us & how we can break through them to be more fluid & accepting in life, accepting of ourselves as well as others. I think the key to accepting ourselves as we are is so that we can be honest about where we are, be honest in what we need to do to break old patterns & create new loving fluidity instead. Without accepting ourselves as we are in this instant we will not be able to se ourselves clearly enough to grow & learn.
    • Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

      Fri, April 27, 2007 - 12:46 PM
      I agree with Paige. Acceptance of oneself does not mean that we can't change. I accept myself, spots and all, in this moment. I love myself always. I strive to improve myself as we all are works in progress. Accepting myself and then trying to build on that is a good thing.

      peace ;-)
      • Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

        Fri, April 27, 2007 - 7:05 PM
        Thank you all for your input!
        I love this tribe...I rarely post, but when I do I receive such great reminders...!
        I remind myself to allow this moment, even tho I'm not perfect - I accept where I am and know that this place will always change...
        I guess by being in the moment, you are accepting what IS...
        But I also believe in the power of making conscious choices...
        and this is the crux of the issue... being unable to make the conscious choice & falling back on unconscious behaviour patterns...
        I guess I just have to keep working on the conscious choice vs the easy, comfortable habitual patterns...
        and love myself thru it all...

        any input on conscious choice making made easy & with love?
        It just feels like a battle most of the time...
        • Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

          Fri, April 27, 2007 - 10:14 PM
          One of my teachers says the quality of my choices determines the quality of my life...I like that and am often pondering that as to the choices Iam making for myself...
          I also have a affirmation card on the fireplace mantle that says...I choose to believe that it is easy to change a thought or a pattern!!

          It all comes down to trusting the deeper whispers that always know the truth...and to calm our minds enough to hear these whispers....blessings and ease and happy choosing...
        • Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

          Sat, April 28, 2007 - 1:33 AM
          >>any input on conscious choice making made easy & with love?

          I like things easy, smooth and effortless : )

          An idea is to notice the old pattern, with perhaps a little amusement or playfulness and choose differently! It may take a little vigilance and willingness. I have found that willingness is the key for an easier path for me. Also lightening up!

          Smiles, Aanais
          • Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

            Sat, April 28, 2007 - 9:53 PM
            these are excerpts from an essay by Elisabeth A. Behnke called 'Matching'. She is a phenomenologist of the body who works to generate a synthesis of the knowledge offered by various somatic and embodiment practices. (taken from: Bone, Breath, and Gesture: Practices of Embodiment).

            here she speaks of a physical practice that can be applied to any mode of experience - this has been a major part of my resolution of perceived duality between acceptance and change. by becoming an active participant in the pattern that one is accepting, claiming the decision, and enacting the pattern mindfully and maintaining awareness of the experience as it unfolds, we bring ourselves into accord with self - body mind will desire are unified and the innate intelligence of our being is allowed to start self-correcting in a way that it cannot while we are in denial of the reality of the moment.

            In it's most schematic form, the matching technique consists of three parts:(1) awareness of something in one's own body; (2) an inner act of matching or aligning oneself with this; and (3) allowing something to change. In actual practice these can flow together but i will comment on them separately for the moment.
            (1) Matching presupposes there there is something there to match, some feature of my bodily experience -- such as a shape, a feeling, or a movement -- of which i am aware. This seems obvious, but deserves mention due to the widespread impoverishment of the experience of one's own body in our culture. As numerous writers have indicated, the ability of many people in Western society to experience their own bodily feeling is profoundly impaired. Matching can help to recover and improve the capacity for somatic perception (by which i mean somaesthetic / kinaesthetic / proprioceptive experience in general),... I will assume that i can indeed feel at least some of my own body from within, simply by turning my awareness towards the shape of my limbs in space, the quality of tonus in this or that part of my body, the sense of my movement being free or restricted, and so on and so forth.
            Let us say, then, that i decide to practice matching. Perhaps i begin by setting aside whatever i am doing and allowing the feeling of my own body to come more fully to awareness. I do not *try* to relax or correct my posture in any way, but simply let myself be conscious of whatever there is to feel, just as it is, welcoming it with a calm, 'oh, how interesting' attitude rather than a critical, fault-finding attitude. Typically, something or other will stand out -- a feeling of tightness somewhere in my body, for example, or an awareness of a particular shape, such as the feeling of one shoulder being higher than the other or the feeling of my upper torso being slightly turned to the left. Sometimes, the tightness will loosen up, the shoulder will drop down, or the torso will untwist of it's own accord - once i have noticed what is going on. At other times, I can easily change whatever it is that i have discovered -- realizing, for example, that i have scrunched myself up while doing a particular task and am now uncoiling with relief. But there are also times when the shape or the feeling if tightness is *just there*. It persists. It is, quite literally, the shape i am in; it is the way i feel, whether i like it or not.
            (2) At this point, there are various things i can do. I can try a variety of relaxation techniques, or i can stretch, or massage the tight area, and so on. But in matching, I do not try to change the shape or the tightness: i match it. This does not mean, for instance, that i consciously try to tighten this area still further, as with some relaxation exercises. Instead I *enter* the shape or tightness, feeling it from within as clearly as i am able, and i begin to *appropriate* it as something I myself am doing - tightening myself in precisely here, or holding myself in exactly that shape.
            What is crucial is that even if in fact i cannot voluntarily change the shape or feeling at this moment, I can pretend that i am maintaining it on purpose, just as it is. Perhaps i imagine that i am an artist's model, and must deliberately maintain this configuration (this shape and quality of tonus) for a few moments while the artist sketches or photographs me. This does not mean that i imagine what i look like from the outside; instead, i get in touch with the *feeling* of holding the pose and i consciously *inhabit* this feeling, putting myself into the position, as it were, of the active doer of whatever it is that produces this felt shape and this quality of felt tonus in my body. I match it -- but i do not try to control it. I simply *join with it*, not as a static fact, but as something ongoing, something that is continuing to be just this way. And I do so not from the vantage point of a spectator, but from that of a participant.
            (3) What happens when I do this? Sometimes, nothing happens. But often, what happens is that I feel myself spontaneously shifting, releasing, or reorganizing myself in a slightly different way, with a new shape and a new body feeling. The change often seems to be directly related to whatever it was i was matching: a tightness eases, a stuck place begins to come unstuck, ect. At other times, however, a shift will take place somewhere else in my body than in the area i was matching. Yet whatever happens, it generally seems to be a move in the direction of greater openness and ease. If I want, I can go on to match this shape and feeling, and see if this leads to further organization. But for matching to work, I must be genuinely focused each time on simply matching what is there; trying for a specific outcome only gets in the way. Thus I have to allow myself time just to feel whatever presents itself and to match it just as it is, rather than immediately trying to 'fix' it or getting caught up in comparisons between the way things are and the way i think they should be.
            One can, of course, use the "golden moments' of bodily awareness to try out new organizations of one's body, first sensing what is there and then consciously changing into a new configuration. But the matching technique I am describing is a process in which one allows oneself to change spontaneously, rather than attempting to direct the process in a particular way. Sometimes the shift will be a familiar one; I may even get what i expect. If, however, I am able to set aside my specific expectations about what will happen nest and my desire to control what is going to happen, the spontaneous shifts can be a suprise as well as a delight.
            ...
            ...
            One of the most pervasive features of contemporary experience might be termed the *I-it* structure of bodily experience. This structure can take on many forms, ranging from the "notion that perhaps oneself and one's body are two separate entities" to a tendency to organize one's perception of one's own body as though I, the perceiving self, am *up here* (in my head) while my own body, the thing perceived, is *down there* with (my foot being further away than, say, my shoulders).... But when I *enter* this shape, joining with it, aligning myself with it, as if I were doing it on purpose, the whole structure of the experience shifts: the shape is transformed into a gesture I am participating in... I can begin to let the *me*-ness flow more fully into the whole of me.
            ...
            ...

            she goes on to discussing variations and possibilities and the limitations of self-help as the assumptions we are basing our functioning on can be buried so deeply as to be simply not present in our awareness. she expands this beyond the somatic to emotion and behavior, and then further to the transpersonal as we experientially integrate within group dynamics...
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    Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

    Sun, April 29, 2007 - 12:41 PM
    Seems to me that the moving energies of change are quite inevitable in our lives. What if the acceptance of self could manifest as the willingness of letting go of what we are now, to be something entirely different in the next moment?
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      Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

      Mon, April 30, 2007 - 5:31 PM
      <<"a conscious choics made easy">> Conscious choices are always simple, but not always easy. Perhaps part of the "struggle" is that we are looking for it to be a "certain" way- we want a formula- "if I do this___, I will be conscious."

      <<"being unable to make the conscious choice & falling back on unconscious behaviour patterns...">> we are so often too hard on ourselves for falling back. What helps me is not to take the "old patterns" so personally, the habits that were shaped by too many intricate factors to name. Paradox is certain in this world, so in this case, it's "not about me," while at the same time, I take full responsibility of these patterns.

      CHANGE is inevitable. It's guaranteed. So you don't have to "try" to change. All "trying" is from the mind. So, when you're in that struggle space, just see it for what it is- the mind, not who you are. When I catch myself in that place, the temptation is for analysis, "why am I like this," "why am I thinking this," "uggh, I'm stuck in this pattern." Through my years of work, so far the most affective thing is to just bring the focus to my breath and connect with my core.

      Prayer helps too- these have been good for the times I've been really stuck:
      God, I pray to open my heart.
      I pray for my highest good to be delivered and revealed.
      God, show me what I need to do.
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    Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

    Mon, May 21, 2007 - 5:49 PM
    In total acceptance of what Is, there is a beautiful flow....a flexible bamboo swaying in the wind. Change is what Is - for nothing that's manifest stays the same. Just Now, whatever that looks like....Allow nature.....allow Peace......
    • Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

      Fri, June 15, 2007 - 7:14 PM
      Hello,
      I am replying to everything here.

      My life has been at a crossroads for a year. i have hung in there for a year with little income missing seattle and my life which I had there.

      When I was deciding to move back or stay here last fall tribe changed and got too hard to use. I lost a lot.. yes they were conscious thinking patterns yes.. but it is a career and movement to retirement adn my involvement in i tis essentially gone.

      I am trying to decide what to do now .. and where to move to.. I dont know how to make the change.. I simply dont know how to make the change and where to start. OK yes I hav edonte many what do I want to do exercises.. adn none have given me a choice which i am wanting to invest in.

      I accept self in a way.. my life has gotten way offtrack.. few friends .. no yoga no dance an dmajor knee pain. Where do I start in trying to change things. I hung in there as they say adn kept aplying for jobs which go to others and tried therapy and church and miss the trees adn so much. Is it that I cant change? What do I have a need to change or need? I am so confused.

      Truthfully there are few jobs here in eastern washington. I cant return to ok income job as i signed a termination agreement and that is huge! BAD in old career. I accept that i need to try something new even kicking and screaming but what? Where?

      Ok this is a rant and I apologize.. For 3 years I loved tribe adn answered most posts on al l my tribes. I sold my things from tribe posts for moving sales.

      Hello again tribe and please forgive me ..

      I promise to reread everything everyone said and apply to my life.
  • Re: Accepting yourself vs Change...

    Mon, June 25, 2007 - 11:39 AM
    hello...i have not even read all that has been written in response to this post...but i have some personal insights on the subject...........
    I think it is way more simple than we make it and complex at the same time!
    By just allowing ourselves to feel everything, no matter how scary, or overwhelming it may be.......accepting it.....acceptance...yes. just accept, allow all feelings to be there.....and catch those old habits when they pop up...eventually you'll break out of repeating them simply with your awareness. The awareness, stillness and connection with all aspects of self is allowing for growth....you are growing without even knowing it.
    Have you read the book The Dark Side of the Light Chasers? It is very good.......its all about projection....and accepting all aspects of ourselves, as well as uncovering lost or suppressed parts of ourselves..............it was very helpful for me.
    Everything in life is paradoxical...........light-dark, love-fear,---doubt--trust,----its the duality that confuses us...........but we can't have one without the other.........
    and yes...once you have surrendered to yourself (accepted) all of you.........growth does occur naturally.......and flows easier.......but if there are things you'd still like to change.......for example, i'm working on changing my communication.......when in controversial conversation...with non-violent communication...connecting with people more compassionately and empathically.....so i changed my dialogue and how i relate but still accept the changes and let go of the old way of connecting........does this make sense to you?
    GReat question.....

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